{"id":5237,"date":"2005-05-19T11:53:31","date_gmt":"2005-05-19T16:53:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.froginawell.net\/japan\/?p=75"},"modified":"2014-08-30T14:14:24","modified_gmt":"2014-08-30T14:14:24","slug":"%e7%b4%b0%e8%b0%b7%e5%8d%83%e5%8d%9a%e3%80%81%e3%80%8e%e3%82%b7%e3%83%99%e3%83%aa%e3%82%a2%e5%87%ba%e5%85%b5%e3%81%ae%e5%8f%b2%e7%9a%84%e7%a0%94%e7%a9%b6%e3%80%8f","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/froginawell.net\/frog\/2005\/05\/%e7%b4%b0%e8%b0%b7%e5%8d%83%e5%8d%9a%e3%80%81%e3%80%8e%e3%82%b7%e3%83%99%e3%83%aa%e3%82%a2%e5%87%ba%e5%85%b5%e3%81%ae%e5%8f%b2%e7%9a%84%e7%a0%94%e7%a9%b6%e3%80%8f\/","title":{"rendered":"\u7d30\u8c37\u5343\u535a\u3001\u300e\u30b7\u30d9\u30ea\u30a2\u51fa\u5175\u306e\u53f2\u7684\u7814\u7a76\u300f"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We recently covered the book\u3001\u300e\u30b7\u30d9\u30ea\u30a2\u51fa\u5175\u306e\u53f2\u7684\u7814\u7a76\u300f(\u7d30\u8c37\u5343\u535a\u3001\u5ca9\u6ce2\u73fe\u4ee3\u6587\u5eab\u30012005) in my class. Unfortunately, I couldn&#8217;t attend the first class, so I&#8217;ll make some comments on the latter half of this book.  The book tries to address what it calls the &#8220;doubled diplomatic posture&#8221; (\u4e8c\u91cd\u5916\u4ea4) of Japan&#8217;s politicians. In this case the writer is mainly discussing Japan&#8217;s military expedition to Siberia. The most interesting and controversial part of this book, I think,  is found in chapter 6. It&#8217;s discusses a debate between Hara Kei and Ito Miyoji. It describes how Ito Miyoji persuaded and prevailed against Hara Kei. The debate proceeds mostly through passages taken from the \u5916\u4ea4\u8abf\u67fb\u4f1a. As you may know, Hara Kei was strongly opposed to the \u30b7\u30d9\u30ea\u30a2\u51fa\u5175\uff08Siberian expedition\uff09. It was a big concern at the time of how to persuade him not to object to Ito&#8217;s plan.<br \/>\n There&#8217;re several narrations and explanations of it, I&#8217;ll give you some sentences that I couldn&#8217;t understand easily.  In a scene during which Ito and Hara adjusted their opinions (p.196-197), Ito gave an amendment of his asnwer to Hara.<br \/>\n \u3000\u300c\u4e00\u3001\u30c1\u30a7\u30c4\u30af\u8ecd\u652f\u63f4\u30ce\u70ba\u7de9\u6025\u30cb\u5fdc\u30b7\u6d66\u5869\u4ee5\u5916\u30ce\u65b9\u9762\u30cb\u51fa\u5175\u30b9\u30eb\u4e8b\u3002<br \/>\n\u3000 \u4e8c\u3001\u5f62\u52e2\u30ce\u767a\u5c55\u6b21\u7b2c\u30cb\u4f9d\u30ea\u66f4\u30cb\u5897\u63f4\u30f2\u5fc5\u8981\u30c8\u30b9\u30eb\u30b3\u30c8\u30a2\u30eb\u30d8\u30ad\u4e8b\u3002\u300d<br \/>\n Hara wanted Ito to erase these two sentences as was to be anticipated , but Ito instead presented Hara with a slightly different one.<br \/>\n   \u300c \u30c1\u30a7\u30c4\u30af\u8ecd\u652f\u63f4\u30ce\u70ba\u6d66\u5869\u4ee5\u5916\u30cb\u51fa\u52d5\u30b7\u4e14\u30c4\u5f62\u52e2\u30ce\u767a\u5c55\u30cb\u4f34\u30d2\u5897\u63f4\u30b9\u30eb\u30ce\u5fc5\u8981\u30a2\u30eb\u30d8\u30ad\u30f2\u4e88\u60f3\u30b7\u6b23\u7136\u5fdc\u8afe\u30b9\u30eb\u30c8\u5171\u30cb\u5ba3\u8a00\u66f8\u6848\u30cb\u95a2\u30b9\u30eb\u7c73\u56fd\u653f\u5e9c\u30ce\u6240\u898b\u30f2\u5c0a\u91cd\u30b9\u30eb\u30ce\u610f\u30f2\u8868\u660e\u30b9\u3002\u300d<br \/>\n Hara agreed to this revision, and Ito thus won the tug of war.  I don&#8217;t quite understand how these two sentences are substantially different. As you already know and may have experienced yourselves in Japan,  \u8a00\u3044\u56de\u3057 is common in ordinary life and even in diplomatic text and speaking. You can also see many \u8a00\u3044\u56de\u3057 in this textbook.  One of my goals is to better understand this kind of \u8a00\u3044\u56de\u3057 found in diplomatic or other scenes throughout Japanese history, especially from the end of the Edo through to our present day. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We recently covered the book\u3001\u300e\u30b7\u30d9\u30ea\u30a2\u51fa\u5175\u306e\u53f2\u7684\u7814\u7a76\u300f(\u7d30\u8c37\u5343\u535a\u3001\u5ca9\u6ce2\u73fe\u4ee3\u6587\u5eab\u30012005) in my class. Unfortunately, I couldn&#8217;t attend the first class, so I&#8217;ll make some comments on the latter half of this book. The book tries to address what it calls the &#8220;doubled diplomatic posture&#8221; (\u4e8c\u91cd\u5916\u4ea4) of Japan&#8217;s politicians. 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