{"id":568,"date":"2008-08-31T07:27:58","date_gmt":"2008-08-31T12:27:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.froginawell.net\/china\/?p=568"},"modified":"2014-08-30T13:38:17","modified_gmt":"2014-08-30T13:38:17","slug":"what-can-china-learn-from-the-jews","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/froginawell.net\/frog\/2008\/08\/what-can-china-learn-from-the-jews\/","title":{"rendered":"What can China learn from the Jews"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Via \u9c8d\u6606 an <a href=\"http:\/\/baokun.blshe.com\/post\/27\/246711\">interview<\/a> with Lydia Liu<sup id=\"rf1-568\"><a href=\"#fn1-568\" title=\"originally from &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/news.sina.com.cn\/m\/lwdfzk\/index.shtml&quot;&gt;Oriental Outlook&lt;\/a&gt;\" rel=\"footnote\">1<\/a><\/sup> Liu&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Translingual-Practice-Literature-Translated-Modernity-China\/dp\/0804725349\">work <\/a>has to to with the difficulties of cultural contact and translation in the 19th century, so it is nice to see a fairly mass-market magazine interviewing here about intercultural contact in this second age of globalization. Liu throws cold water on the idea that the &#8220;foreigner problem&#8221; (i.e. the fact that foreign media often publish things about China that sound like they did not come from Xinhua) is caused by foreigners having not been to China and not knowing Chinese. Liu doubts that a trip to China will make foreigners see the danger of &#8220;hurting the feelings of the Chinese people&#8221; <strong>\u4f24\u5bb3\u4e2d\u56fd\u4eba\u6c11\u611f\u60c5 <\/strong>the way &#8216;China&#8217; does.<\/p>\n<p>I suspect as a scholar she found it rather difficult to fit her ideas into the interview, but I did find it odd that when she was asked how China could respond to accounts in Western media she suggesting taking a page from the Jews.<\/p>\n<p>Apparently since WWII the Jews have set up a lot of non-government organizations aimed at combating antisemitism in the media. As the West has long had a problem with racism, people are particularly sensitive to being accused of it. If China could establish groups to push the idea that criticism of China is a fault on par with racism things would be better. i.e. China needs to translate its grievances into terms that make sense in the West.<\/p>\n<p>I find this a bit questionable as practical advice, since it is not mere <em>kvetching<\/em> that has made even a hint of antisemitism unacceptable in polite society in the West, but rather the legacy of certain historical events. &#8220;China&#8221; may try to convince people that asking about the age of Chinese gymnasts is the equivalent of the Holocaust, but I doubt they will have much luck with that. I also think it would like to see more on why she thinks understanding \u7406\u89e3 is impossible between Jews<sup id=\"rf2-568\"><a href=\"#fn2-568\" title=\"Also not really sure if she means &#8216;Jews&#8217; or &#8216;Israelis&#8217; I know lots of Jews who understand Americans pretty well because they are Americans\" rel=\"footnote\">2<\/a><\/sup> and Gentiles (and, one assumes, between Chinese and non-Chinese.) Still, I think Liu is trying to bridge the gap in understanding between China and the West,<sup id=\"rf3-568\"><a href=\"#fn3-568\" title=\"while also demonstrating it\" rel=\"footnote\">3<\/a><\/sup> so the interview makes a nice follow-up to Charles post below.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u300a\u77ad\u671b\u4e1c\u65b9\u5468\u520a\u300b\uff1a\u5177\u4f53\u6765\u8bf4\uff0c\u5982\u4f55\u5bf9\u897f\u65b9\u7684\u5a92\u4f53\u505a\u56de\u5e94\uff1f<\/p>\n<p>\u5218\u79be\uff1a\u6211\u4eec\u53ef\u4ee5\u5b66\u4e60\u72b9\u592a\u4eba\u3002\u72b9\u592a\u4eba\u4ece\u4e8c\u6218\u4ee5\u6765\u5f97\u5230\u4e86\u5f88\u591a\u6559\u8bad\uff0c\u5728\u5168\u4e16\u754c\u5404\u5730\u8bbe \u7acb\u4e86\u5f88\u591a\u6c11\u95f4\u7684\u76d1\u7763\u7ad9\uff0c\u76d1\u7763\u9488\u5bf9\u72b9\u592a\u4eba\u7684\u5404\u79cd\u79cd\u65cf\u4e3b\u4e49\u7684\u8a00\u8bba\u548c\u5a92\u4f53\u62a5\u9053\u3002\u53ea\u8981\u53d1\u73b0\u67d0\u5a92\u4f53\u5bf9\u72b9\u592a\u4eba\u8fdb\u884c\u76f4\u63a5\u6216\u6697\u542b\u7684\u653b\u51fb\uff0c\u4ed6\u4eec\u90fd\u6709\u529e\u6cd5\u8ba9\u5bf9\u65b9\u8d1f\u8d23\u4efb\u3002\u51e0\u5e74 \u524d\uff0c\u82f1\u56fd\u6709\u4e2a\u975e\u5e38\u91cd\u8981\u7684\u62a5\u7eb8\u7684\u4e3b\u7f16\u6700\u540e\u5c31\u662f\u56e0\u4e3a\u8fd9\u4e2a\u5728\u5404\u79cd\u538b\u529b\u4e0b\u88ab\u89e3\u804c\u4e86\u3002\u897f\u65b9\u56e0\u4e3a\u5386\u53f2\u4e0a\u79cd\u65cf\u6b67\u89c6\u95ee\u9898\u5f88\u4e25\u91cd\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u6700\u6015\u88ab\u522b\u4eba\u8bf4\u79cd\u65cf\u6b67\u89c6\u3002<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;\u79cd\u65cf\u6b67\u89c6&#8221;\u6070\u6070\u6210\u4e86\u72b9\u592a\u4eba\u7684\u4e00\u5f20\u724c\u3002\u4ed6\u4eec\u6ca1\u6709\u8981\u6c42\u8bf4\u8bf7\u4f60\u4eec\u7406\u89e3\u6211\u4eec\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u4ed6\u4eec\u8ddf\u6b27\u6d32\u6709\u8fc7\u591a\u5c11\u4e16\u7eaa\u7684\u4ea4\u5f80\uff0c\u77e5\u9053&#8221;\u7406\u89e3&#8221;\u662f\u4e0d\u53ef\u80fd\u7684\u3002<\/p>\n<p>\u4ed6\u4eec\u4e8e\u662f\u5c31\u975e\u5e38\u667a\u6167\u548c\u7b56\u7565\u5730\u8fdb\u5165\u6b27\u7f8e\u4eba\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u8bdd\u8bed\uff0c\u77e5\u9053\u4ec0\u4e48\u7279\u522b\u81f4\u547d\uff0c\u5c31\u7528\u4ec0\u4e48\u53bb\u53cd\u6297\u3002\u73b0\u5728\u8fd9\u4e00\u70b9\u5df2\u7ecf\u5728\u88ab\u5370\u5ea6\u4eba\u5b66\u4e60\u4e86\u3002\u5c31\u662f\u600e\u4e48\u6837\u5728\u5a92\u4f53\u4e0a\u6210\u529f\u5730\u62b5\u6297\u3002<\/p>\n<p>\u5982\u679c\u4e2d\u56fd\u4eba\u80fd\u5b66\u4e60\u72b9\u592a\u4eba\uff0c\u5728\u5168\u4e16\u754c\u7528\u6c11\u95f4\u7684\u529b\u91cf\u76d1\u7763\u5bf9\u534e\u4eba\u7684\u6b67\u89c6\u8a00\u8bba\uff0c\u5c31\u53ef\u4ee5\u7528\u975e\u5e38\u5c11\u7684\u8d44\u6e90\u505a\u975e\u5e38\u5927\u7684\u4e8b\u60c5\u3002\u6839\u636e\u6211\u5728\u7f8e\u56fd20\u591a\u5e74\u7684\u7ecf\u9a8c\uff0c\u6700\u6709\u6548\u7684\u529e\u6cd5\u4e0d\u662f&#8221;\u8bf7\u4f60\u4e86\u89e3\u6211&#8221;\uff0c\u800c\u662f&#8221;\u4f60\u54ea\u91cc\u9519\u4e86&#8221;\uff0c\u5e76\u4e14\u7528\u4f60\u7684\u8bed\u8a00\u53bb\u6307\u51fa\u4f60\u7684\u9519\u8bef\u3002<\/p>\n<p>\u6bd4\u5982CNN\u8fb1\u534e\u4e8b\u4ef6\uff0c\u5f53\u65f6\u4ed6\u4eec\u7528\u4e86\u7279\u522b\u4fae\u8fb1\u6027\u7684\u8bcd\u6c47\uff0c&#8221;\u65e0\u8d56&#8221;\u554a\u4e4b\u7c7b\uff0c\u7edd\u5bf9\u662f\u79cd\u65cf\u4e3b\u4e49\u3002\u5176\u5b9e\u4ed6\u4eec\u4e0d\u7528\u8bf4\u8fd9\u4e48\u4e25\u91cd\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u5c31\u53ef\u4ee5\u76d1\u7763\u4ed6\u3002\u4ee5\u6b63\u4e49\u7684\u540d\u4e49\uff0c\u4ee5\u5e73\u7b49\u7684\u540d\u4e49\uff0c\u4ee5\u6c11\u4e3b\u7684\u540d\u4e49\u53bb\u76d1\u7763\u79cd\u65cf\u4e3b\u4e49\uff0c\u7ad9\u5728\u666e\u4e16\u7684\u9ad8\u5ea6\u53bb\u76d1\u7763\u5bf9\u4e2d\u56fd\u4eba\u7684\u6b67\u89c6\u3002<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<hr class=\"footnotes\"><ol class=\"footnotes\" style=\"list-style-type:decimal\"><li id=\"fn1-568\"><p >originally from <a href=\"http:\/\/news.sina.com.cn\/m\/lwdfzk\/index.shtml\">Oriental Outlook<\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"#rf1-568\" class=\"backlink\" title=\"Return to footnote 1.\">&#8617;<\/a><\/p><\/li><li id=\"fn2-568\"><p >Also not really sure if she means &#8216;Jews&#8217; or &#8216;Israelis&#8217; I know lots of Jews who understand Americans pretty well because they are Americans&nbsp;<a href=\"#rf2-568\" class=\"backlink\" title=\"Return to footnote 2.\">&#8617;<\/a><\/p><\/li><li id=\"fn3-568\"><p >while also demonstrating it&nbsp;<a href=\"#rf3-568\" class=\"backlink\" title=\"Return to footnote 3.\">&#8617;<\/a><\/p><\/li><\/ol>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Via \u9c8d\u6606 an interview with Lydia Liu1 Liu&#8217;s work has to to with the difficulties of cultural contact and translation in the 19th century, so it is nice to see a fairly mass-market magazine interviewing here about intercultural contact in this second age of globalization. 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