{"id":8178,"date":"2020-08-01T19:37:14","date_gmt":"2020-08-01T19:37:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.froginawell.net\/frog\/?p=8178"},"modified":"2020-08-01T19:37:14","modified_gmt":"2020-08-01T19:37:14","slug":"the-songs-of-chu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/froginawell.net\/frog\/2020\/08\/the-songs-of-chu\/","title":{"rendered":"The Songs of Chu"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"<\/a>Columbia University Press sent me a copy of Gopal Suku\u2019s new translation of Qu Yuan\u2019s The Songs of Chu<\/i><\/a>. I am not qualified to speak about it as a scholarly translation, but in any case I was mostly interested in it as a possible book for a class.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t usually assign much poetry to my students, since they tend to be more resistant to that than to other forms of reading. I usually have them read bits of Book of Songs<\/i> in the sophomore-level History of East Asia1<\/a><\/sup> and I have had them read some Sima Xiangru in the upper-division Early China class, but that is about it. I have used some of Qu Yuan in class, and I did assign the Hawkes<\/a> translation once in Early China. (I like to rotate texts<\/a> a lot.)<\/p>\n

The reasons you might want to use this are pretty clear. \u201cThe central theme in the Chuci<\/i> is the hardship encountered by a moral person born in a corrupt age, specifically one who serves a benighted king.\u201d (p.xv). Qu Yuan was so popular for so long because he was a figure from the Age of Philosophers who\u2019s story fit in with the concerns of the later literati elite. Plus since the poems are from Chu you can bring in issues of central vs. regional cultures, there is lots of stuff on cosmology and religion, stuff on slander and court politics, and the text fits in with a lot of stuff on how the Han re-worked and \u201crationalized\u201d a lot of classical culture and texts. Also, you can encourage your students to join your school\u2019s Dragon Boat team.<\/p>\n

The problem, of course, is that a lot of these themes not as obvious in the text as you might hope. The Hawkes translation, like this one has a long introduction explaining a lot of the context and relevance. This edition is better than Hawkes for a few reasons. Most obviously, a lot of work has been done, and a lot of texts found, in the years since Hawkes did his translation, and thus in this edition the context is a lot clearer. You can dig a lot deeper into teaching Li Sao<\/em><\/a> with Gopal Suku that you could with Hawkes. Of course both editions suffer from the problem that they have lots of long endnotes, and you have to read them to understand the text.\u00a0 -I- like this, since it gives you a way to actually understand a fairly allusive set of poems and you learn a ton of stuff from it. On the other hand, it is also a lot of unfamiliar work for students. In this respect the Sukhu edition is better than Hawkes, in that it explains far more of the people and events touched on in the test. Hawkes seemed to have assumed you either already knew who Shensheng of Jin was or could guess well enough from the context to go on with the poem. Sukhu gives you a note with the whole story. One thing I would like to see done differently is to post the notes to the CUP web page as a single file. This would cost nothing, make reading and understanding the text (with your phone or an additional screen) a lot easier.<\/p>\n

How is it as a translation?<\/p>\n

Here is the first bit of Yuan You (Wandering Far Away) from Sukhu<\/p>\n

Grieving at a dead end in a degenerate time,
\nI wished to be weightless, to ascend and wander far away,
\nBut with no such power among my feeble gifts,
\nWhat would I ride to float in the sky?
\nI was sinking into a bog, overwhelmed by filth,
\nIn stifling sadness-who was there to turn to?
\nWide-eyed, sleepless nights I lay alone,
\nTill morning light fell on my cowering soul.<\/p>\n

Here is the same from Hawkes<\/p>\n

Grieved by the parlous state of this world’s ways,
\nI wanted to float up and away from it.
\nBut my powers were too weak to give me support:
\nWhat could I ride on to bear me upwards?
\nFallen on a time of foulness and impurity,
\nAlone with my misery, I had no one to confide in.
\nIn the night-time I lay, wide-eyed, without sleeping;
\nMy unquiet soul was active until the daylight.<\/p>\n

Here is the Chinese, from C-text<\/a>
\n\u9060\u904a:
\n\u60b2\u6642\u4fd7\u4e4b\u8fd1\u9628\u516e\uff0c\u9858\u8f15\u8209\u800c\u9060\u904a\u3002
\n\u8cea\u83f2\u8584\u800c\u7121\u56e0\u516e\uff0c\u7109\u6258\u4e58\u800c\u4e0a\u6d6e\uff1f
\n\u906d\u6c88\u6fc1\u800c\u6c61\u7a62\u516e\uff0c\u7368\u9b31\u7d50\u5176\u8ab0\u8a9e\uff01
\n\u591c\u803f\u803f\u800c\u4e0d\u5bd0\u516e\uff0c\u9b42\u71df\u71df\u800c\u81f3\u66d9<\/p>\n

Translating archaic poetry is far above my scholarly abilities, but the new version reads better for me even if it is less literal. “My unquiet soul was active until the daylight.” may be closer to \u9b42\u71df\u71df\u800c\u81f3\u66d9, but it does not sound as good as “Till morning light fell on my cowering soul.” I think students would react a lot better to the new version. Of course this bit also emphasizes one of the problems with\u00a0Chuci<\/em> as a teaching book. For me the whinging of a middle-aged man who thinks the world is shit and he has wasted his time trying<\/a> to make things better is a UNIVERSAL THEME worthy of Joseph Campbell.\u00a0 Students don’t react as well to this, but as early texts tend to not have a lot of student-friendly themes I suppose I can deal with that.<\/p>\n

So it this a good book to assign? I would say yes. The main reason is that it is a good translation and I think some of it will stick with students who read and think about it, which for me is a huge part of why I assign things. It is an ideal source for illustrating the self-image of the Confucian scholar-official, a fine source on the nature and complexity of early texts, and an excellent source on early Chinese cosmology and the relationship between society, the state and the cosmos.<\/p>\n

That said, I am not sure I will assign it. A lot of the issues it does well with are a bit more than I want to get into in my Early China class. It would be hard to displace the Essential Huainanzi<\/em> for a lot of the important political issues. It is a much easier book to recommend to a student than the Hawkes, however, and I could see some of the individual poems working well in class.<\/p>\n

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