{"id":937,"date":"2008-12-09T22:11:54","date_gmt":"2008-12-10T03:11:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.froginawell.net\/china\/?p=937"},"modified":"2014-08-30T13:38:14","modified_gmt":"2014-08-30T13:38:14","slug":"sino-soviet-nuclear-collaboration-revisionism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/froginawell.net\/frog\/2008\/12\/sino-soviet-nuclear-collaboration-revisionism\/","title":{"rendered":"Sino-Soviet Nuclear Collaboration Revisionism?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2008\/12\/09\/science\/09bomb.html?pagewanted=all\">review of Thomas C. Reed, and Danny B. Stillman<\/a>&#8216;s new book, <i>The Nuclear Express: A Political History of the Bomb and its Proliferation<\/i>, William Broad writes that <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Moscow freely shared its atomic thefts with Mao Zedong, China\u2019s leader. The book says that Klaus Fuchs, a Soviet spy in the Manhattan Project who was eventually caught and, in 1959, released from jail, did likewise. Upon gaining his freedom, the authors say, Fuchs gave the mastermind of Mao\u2019s weapons program a detailed tutorial on the Nagasaki bomb. A half-decade later, China surprised the world with its first blast.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This doesn&#8217;t jibe with what I remember about the relationship at all. Perhaps I&#8217;m overreacting to the word &#8220;freely,&#8221; but there was considerable resistance on the Soviet side to full cooperation with the development of Chinese atomic bomb and missile technology.<sup id=\"rf1-937\"><a href=\"#fn1-937\" title=\" See, for example, &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?hl=en&#038;lr=&#038;id=hQsFJlSf26kC&#038;oi=fnd&#038;pg=PR9&#038;dq=sino-soviet+split+atomic+bomb&#038;ots=l9J57Pj1el&#038;sig=zQUPwWspx1o-Vu31hSP0cKsiXUg#PPA141,M1&quot;&gt;Sergei Goncharenko, &#8220;Sino-Soviet Military Cooperation,&#8221;&lt;\/a&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Brothers in Arms: the Rise and Fall of the Sino-Soviet Alliance, 1945-1963&lt;\/i&gt;, ed. Odd Arne Westad, Stanford University Press, 1998, pp. 141-164. \" rel=\"footnote\">1<\/a><\/sup> In most accounts that I&#8217;ve read, that foot-dragging was a significant element in the ultimate break between the two powers, and the Chinese had to work from the bits and pieces the Soviets gave them<sup id=\"rf2-937\"><a href=\"#fn2-937\" title=\" See, for example, &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/amac.lbl.gov\/~jiqiang\/atomsci.pdf&quot;&gt;Ji Qiang, &#8220;The scientists making the atomic bombs&#8221; [PDF], pp. 130-132, which describes Soviet help in the 1950s but that aid quietly disappears from the narrative around &#8217;59. \" rel=\"footnote\">2<\/a><\/sup> <\/a> combined with knowledge gleaned by Chinese who studied in the <a href=\"http:\/\/query.nytimes.com\/gst\/fullpage.html?res=9A0DE7DD143FF937A3575BC0A960948260\">US<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mychinatour.cn\/china\/about-china\/sci-tech\/modern-\/elites\/chinese-modern-physicist-qian-sanqiang-%E3%80%80.html\">France<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This doesn&#8217;t seriously call into question the basic thesis of the book, which is that nuclear weapons technology spreads by diffusion &#8212; usually with some element of theft, subversion or treason<sup id=\"rf3-937\"><a href=\"#fn3-937\" title=\" This isn&#8217;t a new idea; I&#8217;ve been telling my students for years that the United States is the only nation to have actually invented the atomic bomb. But their level of detail and access to new sources sounds pretty substantial. \" rel=\"footnote\">3<\/a><\/sup> &#8212; and that China has been a major proliferator in the post-Mao era.<sup id=\"rf4-937\"><a href=\"#fn4-937\" title=\" The French are the other major nexus, having aided the Chinese and provided the Israelis with most of their technology, and Israel has gone on to share it with others, most notably South Africa. \" rel=\"footnote\">4<\/a><\/sup> Reed and Stillman assert that <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>China in 1982 made a policy decision to flood the developing world with atomic know-how. Its identified clients include Algeria, Pakistan and North Korea. Alarmingly, the authors say one of China\u2019s bombs was created as an \u201cexport design\u201d that nearly \u201canybody could build.\u201d The blueprint for the simple plan has traveled from Pakistan to Libya and, the authors say, Iran.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> That puts China square in the middle of one of the most important and troubling trends of the last quarter-century. <\/p>\n<hr class=\"footnotes\"><ol class=\"footnotes\" style=\"list-style-type:decimal\"><li id=\"fn1-937\"><p > See, for example, <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?hl=en&#038;lr=&#038;id=hQsFJlSf26kC&#038;oi=fnd&#038;pg=PR9&#038;dq=sino-soviet+split+atomic+bomb&#038;ots=l9J57Pj1el&#038;sig=zQUPwWspx1o-Vu31hSP0cKsiXUg#PPA141,M1\">Sergei Goncharenko, &#8220;Sino-Soviet Military Cooperation,&#8221;<\/a>, <i>Brothers in Arms: the Rise and Fall of the Sino-Soviet Alliance, 1945-1963<\/i>, ed. Odd Arne Westad, Stanford University Press, 1998, pp. 141-164. &nbsp;<a href=\"#rf1-937\" class=\"backlink\" title=\"Return to footnote 1.\">&#8617;<\/a><\/p><\/li><li id=\"fn2-937\"><p > See, for example, <a href=\"http:\/\/amac.lbl.gov\/~jiqiang\/atomsci.pdf\">Ji Qiang, &#8220;The scientists making the atomic bombs&#8221; [PDF], pp. 130-132, which describes Soviet help in the 1950s but that aid quietly disappears from the narrative around &#8217;59. &nbsp;<a href=\"#rf2-937\" class=\"backlink\" title=\"Return to footnote 2.\">&#8617;<\/a><\/p><\/li><li id=\"fn3-937\"><p > This isn&#8217;t a new idea; I&#8217;ve been telling my students for years that the United States is the only nation to have actually invented the atomic bomb. But their level of detail and access to new sources sounds pretty substantial. &nbsp;<a href=\"#rf3-937\" class=\"backlink\" title=\"Return to footnote 3.\">&#8617;<\/a><\/p><\/li><li id=\"fn4-937\"><p > The French are the other major nexus, having aided the Chinese and provided the Israelis with most of their technology, and Israel has gone on to share it with others, most notably South Africa. &nbsp;<a href=\"#rf4-937\" class=\"backlink\" title=\"Return to footnote 4.\">&#8617;<\/a><\/p><\/li><\/ol>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a review of Thomas C. Reed, and Danny B. Stillman&#8216;s new book, The Nuclear Express: A Political History of the Bomb and its Proliferation, William Broad writes that Moscow freely shared its atomic thefts with Mao Zedong, China\u2019s leader. 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